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	<title>Comments on: Horner, Dominicali: Double diffuser was our downfall</title>
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		<title>By: PeterRiva</title>
		<link>http://www.formula1blog.com/2009/11/02/horner-dominicali-double-diffuser-was-our-downfall/comment-page-1/#comment-62764</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It almost the dia del muerto - can&#039;t we put Max effigies on a stick and set fire to him? Maybe he&#039;ll get the message?
In the UK Thursday is Guy Fawkes Day... how about getting the UK press to change it to Max Mosley day? There are loads of bonfires he could accidentally trip into... And if he goes out in spectacular fashion it might cool the jets of Todt&#039;s nominee to oversee F1. Don&#039;t get me wrong, I admire Schumi... but there is this little saying...
Tacitus, 56AD: &quot;Germans are like a bramble across the path of human destiny that, every once and a while, need to be cut back.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It almost the dia del muerto &#8211; can&#8217;t we put Max effigies on a stick and set fire to him? Maybe he&#8217;ll get the message?<br />
In the UK Thursday is Guy Fawkes Day&#8230; how about getting the UK press to change it to Max Mosley day? There are loads of bonfires he could accidentally trip into&#8230; And if he goes out in spectacular fashion it might cool the jets of Todt&#8217;s nominee to oversee F1. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I admire Schumi&#8230; but there is this little saying&#8230;<br />
Tacitus, 56AD: &#8220;Germans are like a bramble across the path of human destiny that, every once and a while, need to be cut back.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with you if we were talking about Red Bull, Brawn, Force India, etc. Their 2010 cars will likely be evolutions of their &#039;09 cars.

In Ferrari&#039;s case, it was a matter of either scrapping &#039;09 development entirely or doing what BMW did and designing and building a completely new &#039;09 car for mid-season. I&#039;m sure that the F60 does not have the aero or weight distribution that the team would want if it were not for KERS. The 2010 car should be radically different from the F60 and the extra development time (as opposed to &#039;09 track time with a bad chassis) might be a difference maker in returning Ferrari to contenders.

Renault is another team that had an absolute dog of a car due to KERS packaging and they are probably going down a completely different route for next year also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with you if we were talking about Red Bull, Brawn, Force India, etc. Their 2010 cars will likely be evolutions of their &#8216;09 cars.</p>
<p>In Ferrari&#8217;s case, it was a matter of either scrapping &#8216;09 development entirely or doing what BMW did and designing and building a completely new &#8216;09 car for mid-season. I&#8217;m sure that the F60 does not have the aero or weight distribution that the team would want if it were not for KERS. The 2010 car should be radically different from the F60 and the extra development time (as opposed to &#8216;09 track time with a bad chassis) might be a difference maker in returning Ferrari to contenders.</p>
<p>Renault is another team that had an absolute dog of a car due to KERS packaging and they are probably going down a completely different route for next year also.</p>
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		<title>By: SR</title>
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		<dc:creator>SR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still not 100% sold that stopping development on the &#039;09 car was the best approach.  I&#039;m sure Ferrari know what they are doing and Stefano alluded to the fact that the F60 wasn&#039;t fundamentally setup to be a good base for the 2010 car, but I can&#039;t shake the thought that the on-track time the other teams have had is invaluable in this day of severely limited testing. I guess we&#039;ll see, hopefully the removal of KERS and the added fuel tank capacity will be enough to make the early start on the redesign worth it...but Macca and Red Bull look very strong...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still not 100% sold that stopping development on the &#8216;09 car was the best approach.  I&#8217;m sure Ferrari know what they are doing and Stefano alluded to the fact that the F60 wasn&#8217;t fundamentally setup to be a good base for the 2010 car, but I can&#8217;t shake the thought that the on-track time the other teams have had is invaluable in this day of severely limited testing. I guess we&#8217;ll see, hopefully the removal of KERS and the added fuel tank capacity will be enough to make the early start on the redesign worth it&#8230;but Macca and Red Bull look very strong&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What stings Ferrari and Red Bull is that the gentleman&#039;s agreement to not pursue the double-diffuser in its early stages in the offseason was broken by three teams and of course one team profited greatly by doing so.

If a team were to break the gentleman&#039;s agreement to not use KERS in 2010 and go on to win the WC, then there will be a similar amount of grumbling.

There will be a rebound effect from the double diffuser controversy in 2009, and we have already seen how good the Red Bull has become in the last three races of this season. 

Ferrari in particular appear to be seething about how &#039;09 unfolded. The crazy way Alonso was recruited for 2010 and the team&#039;s abandonment of 2009 after the first few races hints at how badly they want to return the favor in &#039;10. Whether or not their rage is properly channeled remains to be seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What stings Ferrari and Red Bull is that the gentleman&#8217;s agreement to not pursue the double-diffuser in its early stages in the offseason was broken by three teams and of course one team profited greatly by doing so.</p>
<p>If a team were to break the gentleman&#8217;s agreement to not use KERS in 2010 and go on to win the WC, then there will be a similar amount of grumbling.</p>
<p>There will be a rebound effect from the double diffuser controversy in 2009, and we have already seen how good the Red Bull has become in the last three races of this season. </p>
<p>Ferrari in particular appear to be seething about how &#8216;09 unfolded. The crazy way Alonso was recruited for 2010 and the team&#8217;s abandonment of 2009 after the first few races hints at how badly they want to return the favor in &#8216;10. Whether or not their rage is properly channeled remains to be seen.</p>
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