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	<title>Comments on: Michael:  It&#8217;s the circuit not the car</title>
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		<title>By: Williams4Ever</title>
		<link>http://www.formula1blog.com/2009/11/09/michael-its-the-circuit-not-the-car/comment-page-1/#comment-63269</link>
		<dc:creator>Williams4Ever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyways with Refuelling ban, the overtaking in pits tendency should curbed. Now the the variable will be - how much fuel does the car have onboard and how has the driver managed the tires. So driver doing good on this front at any point in race will be able to overtake the driver in the front. 

2010 should be the watershed year, if we don&#039;t see overtaking now then it will be never. Not to mention it will be statement on overtaking capabilities of the drivers as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyways with Refuelling ban, the overtaking in pits tendency should curbed. Now the the variable will be &#8211; how much fuel does the car have onboard and how has the driver managed the tires. So driver doing good on this front at any point in race will be able to overtake the driver in the front. </p>
<p>2010 should be the watershed year, if we don&#8217;t see overtaking now then it will be never. Not to mention it will be statement on overtaking capabilities of the drivers as well.</p>
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		<title>By: SR</title>
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		<dc:creator>SR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the track design does have a lot to do with it.  These are fairly large cars on pretty narrow tracks with curbed up chicanes and seating focused layouts.  If you want &quot;Rossi-passing-Lorenzo-on-last-lap-of-Catalunya-MotoGP&quot; type goosebumps, something needs to change in F1...either the cars need to get smaller (not going to happen) or the tracks need to become more accomodating.  Your point about lack of overtaking at the classic tracks is a good one, but at least there is the possibility of passing at those venues...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the track design does have a lot to do with it.  These are fairly large cars on pretty narrow tracks with curbed up chicanes and seating focused layouts.  If you want &#8220;Rossi-passing-Lorenzo-on-last-lap-of-Catalunya-MotoGP&#8221; type goosebumps, something needs to change in F1&#8230;either the cars need to get smaller (not going to happen) or the tracks need to become more accomodating.  Your point about lack of overtaking at the classic tracks is a good one, but at least there is the possibility of passing at those venues&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Williams4Ever</title>
		<link>http://www.formula1blog.com/2009/11/09/michael-its-the-circuit-not-the-car/comment-page-1/#comment-63211</link>
		<dc:creator>Williams4Ever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Sam Michael&#039;s logic is to be agreed, How many overtaking moves did happen in Silverstone, Spa and Monza :-?

The answer is not many. Only time races become interesting in recent years is when it rains, otherwise there is hardly any racing. 

So while I personally don&#039;t like the TilkeDromes Statistics in favor of traditional circuit is not in favor of Historical tracks either.

This season again the cars were not of identical specs, some had DD while some had KERS. So the overtaking moves in earlier part of season were artificial. I didn&#039;t get any goosebumps watching KERS equipped Ferrari/McLaren making places in race starts or for that matter better handling Brawn overtaking a Renault (in Brazil). Only move that was worth remembering was Button on Hamilton in Barcelona, since the McLaren car was equipped with KERS and Button still made the move stick.

Does anybody remember the Seinfeld episode when Kramer picks up &quot;Karate&quot; and enrolls in class of full of kids. This years cars were reminds me of the same situation. 

( And in this light imagine, Leggard-Brundle-AntDavidson , going overboard when Button passed Grosjean in Brazil and were lambasting Kobyashi when he was defending his position)

And about actual overtaking on track in equal equipment didn&#039;t we had all the overtaking moves made by JPM in 2000-2006 :-?

It might have brought joy to the fans, but did it make the team engineers happy?? Given that the Colombian got into the dirty air of the car in front and thus disturbing the aero-balance of his car. 
Lets accept the teams like drivers who can drive metronomically in clean air lap after lap and help team make most of the strategy they have planned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Sam Michael&#8217;s logic is to be agreed, How many overtaking moves did happen in Silverstone, Spa and Monza :-?</p>
<p>The answer is not many. Only time races become interesting in recent years is when it rains, otherwise there is hardly any racing. </p>
<p>So while I personally don&#8217;t like the TilkeDromes Statistics in favor of traditional circuit is not in favor of Historical tracks either.</p>
<p>This season again the cars were not of identical specs, some had DD while some had KERS. So the overtaking moves in earlier part of season were artificial. I didn&#8217;t get any goosebumps watching KERS equipped Ferrari/McLaren making places in race starts or for that matter better handling Brawn overtaking a Renault (in Brazil). Only move that was worth remembering was Button on Hamilton in Barcelona, since the McLaren car was equipped with KERS and Button still made the move stick.</p>
<p>Does anybody remember the Seinfeld episode when Kramer picks up &#8220;Karate&#8221; and enrolls in class of full of kids. This years cars were reminds me of the same situation. </p>
<p>( And in this light imagine, Leggard-Brundle-AntDavidson , going overboard when Button passed Grosjean in Brazil and were lambasting Kobyashi when he was defending his position)</p>
<p>And about actual overtaking on track in equal equipment didn&#8217;t we had all the overtaking moves made by JPM in 2000-2006 :-?</p>
<p>It might have brought joy to the fans, but did it make the team engineers happy?? Given that the Colombian got into the dirty air of the car in front and thus disturbing the aero-balance of his car.<br />
Lets accept the teams like drivers who can drive metronomically in clean air lap after lap and help team make most of the strategy they have planned.</p>
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