Leading up to the Hungarian Grand Prix this weekend, the talk was mostly centered around team orders but Friday’s practice pace set by Red Bull had effectively pressed that controversy to the simmer plate as all new allegations of illegal use of flexible front wings had taken center stage.
Red Bull and Ferrari are alleged to have a front wing that flexes under load which increases the performance of their cars. The new wings made their debut in Silverstone this year at the British Grand Prix. Although the FIA gave the wings the “all-clear†after the German Grand Prix, it seems that McLaren and Mercedes GP would like some clarifications on the regulation after Red Bull’s Sebastian Vettel vaporized the entire field by setting a pole position lap nearly half a second faster than his teammate Mark Webber and over a full second quicker than rival Fernando Alonso’s Ferrari.
Emotionally speaking, there has been a shift in fortunes for Ferrari as of late and Red Bull, while daunting all year long, have upped their game considerably while points leaders McLaren are slowly moving backward even with an aggressive development campaign as I mentioned here. Technically speaking, it is perhaps not difficult to suss if McLaren team boss Martin Whitmarsh is correct in saying a flexible front wing would be worth a second or more in lap time.
FIA technical regulation 3.17.1 states that “bodywork may deflect no more than 10mm vertically when a 500N load is applied vertically to it 800mm forward of the front wheel centre line and 795mm from the car centre line. The load will be applied in a downward direction using a 50mm diameter ram and an adapter 300mm long and 150mm wideâ€. The remaining question is how much flex is allowed when over 500 Newton’s are applied?
While absolute “rigid†parts are impossible to create, the drama may just be in regulation 3.15 regarding Aerodynamic influence:
With the exception of the cover described in Article 6.5.2 (when used in the pit lane), the driver adjustable bodywork described in Article 3.18 and the ducts described in Article 11.4, any specific part of the car influencing its aerodynamic performance:
• must comply with the rules relating to bodywork
• must be rigidly secured to the entirely sprung part of the car (rigidly secured means not having any degree of freedom)
• must remain immobile in relation to the sprung part of the car.
Any device or construction that is designed to bridge the gap between the sprung part of the car and the ground is prohibited under all circumstances. No part having an aerodynamic influence and no part of the bodywork, with the exception of the skid block in 3.13 above, may under any circumstances be located below the reference plane.
If a wing conforms to the 10mmm @ 500N test, is it good to go? If it does flex under more than 500N, is that up for interpretation? The FIA does go on to say that they can change the parameters of the test at any time should a part be deemed suspect and perhaps this was added to quell the rigidity at 500N but flexibility at anything greater than 500N. That’s splitting hairs but it is a sport of inches and seconds.
Then spirit of the regulation versus the letter of the regulation I suspect. Perhaps the same approach and crafty engineering that saw the creation of the J-dampers, movable floor, dual diffuser and F-Duct. McLaren’s Whitmarsh says he is unclear of the methind being used and that is perplexing to him but a clarification is certainly needed:
“I think the FIA has got to take a view now of what is acceptable, and if it is acceptable, to get the endplates down. Every millimetre is about one point of downforce at the front, although it also improves the rear. So 25-30mm of vertical lowering of the endplates is one second [per lap], so it is fairly substantial.”
“We believe that the extent to which our bodywork is flexing is permissible. If we believed at the beginning of the year that such gross movement of the bodywork was permissible we would have done that.
“Progressively we have seen some teams’ bodywork has become much more flexible – but maybe they are right, maybe they have got the right interpretation, maybe we have to be hard on ourselves that we have not been as brave, as creative or as diligent in this area as some of these teams.
“If anyone who just looks at the regulation 3.15 (of F1′s technical rules), which says bodywork must be attached rigidly, then goes to look at endplates that ought to be 90mm off the ground and sees them touching the ground, then I think a lay person would be surprised that that is permissible.”
Mercedes boss Ross Brawn would like a clarification so they can move full force toward a similar wing. The caution is that this development will cost money and the team don’t want to spend it if the FIA is simply going to change its mind later. He told AUTOSPORT:
“I think observation on the videos and stills show that Red Bull is the prime case, but Ferrari partially, has managed to set their cars up to run the front wings a lot lower to the ground than perhaps ourselves or McLaren have been able to achieve.
“I think probably what we are asking is, before we all go off and have a massive development programme, is Charlie [Whiting, FIA race director] going to change the rules before we get there?
“When it is demonstrated to you, you look at all the ways that you can achieve it and I think for the latter part of this year, and next year, we will all be doing the same. We just want to make sure that Charlie is comfortable with it and is not going to change the rules when we get there, because it will be an awful waste of effort.”
Depending on your point of view, the “flexi†wing is either an F-duct type of brilliance or a violation of the regulations. I am not an engineer and did not stay and a Holiday Inn Express last night so I have no dog in this fight from an intellectual stand point but if the FIA have looked at the wing, approved it and moved on, I sense it is an F-Duct style innovation that McLaren shouldn’t be too upset over. They owned everyone’s backside earlier this year with an innovative and creative interpretation of the regulations just as Brawn GP did last year with their dual diffuser.
If you believe in absolutes, then the regulation gives measurement that it is not to exceed and a test parameter that will be used. IT also provides a caveat that the test parameters can be changed and that implies that developing rigidity at 500N that doesn’t exist when pressed beyond test parameters is a clear indication that it should not have a dual nature beyond testing parameters.
Ferrari’s Stefano Domenicali defended their wings saying:
“For me, it is not a matter of opinion,”
“We need to rely on the governing body that is doing all the checks that they want.
“They did, at least I can say on our car, so it is a matter of respecting the regulations and really that’s it.
“There are certain tests that you have to do with the front wing as you can do with other parts of the car, and you have to respect the loads and the tests that are connected to that part specifically – and if you pass that, then that’s done.â€
Red Bull’s Christian Horner was no less defensive of their position and even added some polemics to spice up the action:
“It is interesting where the emphasis moves,â€.
“So far this year we have had active ride height, we have had suspension, we have had diffusers looked at. We have had front wings.
“As always there is never a silver bullet.
“The performance of any car comes down to how design philosophy and a combination of components work as opposed to any one particular component.
“There are stringent tests. I am happy that our car complies with all the regulations and take it as a compliment to our engineers when a fuss like this is sometimes made by rival teams.â€
This all depends on how the FIA views the regulations it wrote and perhaps FIA technical boss Charlie Whiting has rendered a judgment on the issue. He offered a judgment on the F-Duct this year only to conceded it and then ban it for 2011. He offered a judgment on the dual diffuser only to allow it in 2010 but ban it in 2011. I suspect the “flexi†wing will meet a similar demise in time.






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If the Ferrari and RBR wings have been passed by scrutineers – they are legal and good to go – Rules only mean anything when taken in conjunction with how they FIA deem that rules have been met.
Another small point – where the FIA test is a defined point relative to the front axle and centreline – that is not necessarily where the down force would be acting (when modelled as a point load).
Merc and Mclaren have missed a trick and are crying over it.
On it’s own worth a second a lap? doubt it – but every little helps and every little on the front wing helps the rest of the package.
Oh, just had a thought – if anyone’s fascinated by the technical side of things I can thoroughly recommend this book – it’s a bit technical in places but most general readers should be able to get a lot from it:
http://www.amazon.com/Race-Rally-Car-Sourcebook-Competition/dp/1859608469
So you are certainly on the side of the camp that says if it meets current testing criteria, then it’s good. You don’t see the FIA’s stating they can change the parameter’s of the test as a sign that they are not looking for rigidity up to 500N but what happens after that is anyone’s game?
Just want to make sure I am not misunderstanding your opinion on this.
Don’t get me wrong in that I do see the argument, but like the F-duck and double diffuser before it someone has basically outsmarted the rule makers. I don’t think the teams care too much for technical rules at all – their bible is what the test is for any given component (if you catch my drift).
If the rule makers catch up and it has to be changed to meet the new rules, I’m sure they will manage it – but nothing can be said about the part currently on the car.
If I remember the “fan car” as an example – nothing illegal about it in the race it did run – was very promptly banned after.
At present they are deemed “rigid” because they meet the 10mm at 500n load criteria. When the FIA say – but it clearly flexes in use – RBR will argue that it meets the scrutineers definition of what the word means.
I think Brawn has it right – if it’s going to stay at that we’ll do it but we want to know the playing field before we go for it.
Agreed in that I would hate to see teams spend money only to have Charlie outlaw them. Kind of like the F-Duct issue actually or the Dual Diffuser.
I do like how McLaren are keeping the pressure on it and exposing it. They should do that. People were complaining when they outsmarted everyone with F-Duct’s and now the reverse is true so keep pressing Martin and at least get a clarification so you too can spend loads of cash on a new flexi-wing. :)
The F-duct didnt break any rules, it was just a better idea that nobody thought of before. The flexiwings break the rule that says no moveable bodywork, and they do move.
Um…no they don’t. No more so then the f-duct did or didn’t. They are both interpretations …and so far they’re both legal…
Agreed with Steven here, neither the F-Duct nor the RBR/Ferrari wings break the letter of the law.
If the wings were meant to be immovable the FIA would state a 0mm deflection at any load, not 10mm at 500kN. But like they always say “nothing can be made rigid 100%” so that why the FIA have the load test. The wings pass it, therefore its legal.
Now if it is against the spirit of the rules, well thats another matter. But the “spirit” rules are total BS to me anyway, its just in there as a “get-out-of-jail free” card for the FIA.
Regarding the F-duct legality, its in a similar boat. It was declared legal therefore it is perfectly fine. However you tell me how that can me legal where the mass damper wasn’t.
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Its the FIA’s way.
certainly true; the FIA will end up doing whatever it take to favor its current favorites; they did it to Renault and the clever (and legal) tuned mass damper, they eneded up banning (for 2011) the DDD even thought it’s legal, they also banned the f-duct (also for 2011) after years passed and Macca was able to make it work. They’re hitting strong towards a spec series
The more precisely the rule is put into wording, the more loopholes it creates, lawyers love this stuff! Whitmarsh is just sensationalizing this whole thing saying its worth over a second, so he thinks if RBR only has a ‘fixed wing’ as he puts it the Mclaren is actually faster?
It’s pretty funny though that “Fduct Whitmarsh” and “Double D – Wierd curve barge board Brawn” is making noises about these things.
Whitmarsh is saying its worth a second because that how far behind they are.
Thanks Mr Tubes for the book reference, I’m gonna have a look.
Have a look at http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2010/07/30/aero-elasticity-%E2%80%93-red-bulls-front-wing/
I definately come down on the side that flexi wings are brilliant and I would hate to see them banned. I understand the reasons that flexible bodywork was banned, with bits falling off and all. But this is fundamentally the kind of innovation which defines how cool F1 is.
In regards to the spirit or letter of the law, I think if there is no such thing as a perfectly rigid structure and the level of rigidity has to be defined by a test then the teams are perfectly within their rights to design up to the level of the test and no more. I think I felt differently about the double diffuser last year and I’m not sure why but I think I will just live with my subjective double standard.
I could even see it in the television that the front wing is emtremely flexible, I mean they had to polish the bottom side – since it is touching the ground.
I remember Christian Horner was saying the new front wing does not increase the car, when he handed the last front wing to Seb.
Its a shame they keep banning all these amazing concepts.
I think the rule demonstrates just how much downforce these cars produce at speed. Its really insightful.
The most intriguing part of wing-gate is how Ferrari and RBR came with the concept simultaneously. Somebody’s been busy at the photocopier?
…the idea was on the paper at Macca but their engineer left them and went to Maranello
I posted this in the forum topic, but will repeat it here.
Yes the RBR’s wings were touching the ground, but how can that be taken seriously when they shot was through a corner? Different suspension setups could provide that (softer roll bars for example, or even my theory that RBR run much lower tyre pressures during quali).
Its not like both endplates were touching the ground at the same time.
Now before you go all “But mini did you see how wobbly they were? They were moving more than a ‘man with a van’ does”. Yes I did notice them. But through a corner when there is less aero loading on them than through the straight.
So you tell me, if the wings are flexing through the corner, how come they arent along the straight. Yes I have looked for the movement from the onboard camera when you have a fixed plane of reference (like the sidepods) to compare movement too.
Once again leading me to think this is a setup thing making it look like its a flexi aero thing.
Mini, I am on your side mostly,(except for those silly little BMW things) but the onboard from both Webber and Vettels car shows on the straight that the wings dip, maybe about 30-50mm as the speed increased. This I believe is why they are faster on fast(ish) corners and can brake deeper into slower corners.
Having said that I still think that like the f-duct, the double diffuser, and even the fan and ground effects, that it is a legal interpretation that has caught everyone else on the hop.
Whilst I am at it, Redbull mechanics say that the car is seriously effected when following within 3 secs of another car (hence Webber being told to back 4 sec from Button at Hockenheim). This sort of idiocy is kinda what is wrong with F1. Sure Newey did a great job, and the car has been at the front in quali, but the problem is if they don’t get the start (and the Renault doesn’t seem to have the grunt to get them off the line the way the Merc and Ferrari motors do) the drivers have serious drama’s trying to pass anyone!
Flexi wing or not, get in front of an RBR car and you are a pretty good bet to stay there!
Well, I think the main problem with RB overtaking car in front is due to its drivers; Vetterl is a terrible overtaker and Webber is likely to bump you on the rear trying to brake late. I think all the cars have a terrible wake flow with such DDD; the large front section of the new wings, with all those airfoilsfor sure are very susceptible to turbulent flow. I think Hamilton can make a lot of money if he offers an overtaking summer camp!
Ha Ha,.. Hamiltons overtaking club could be sponsored by the tyre manufacturers, as the teams will be needing to replace alot of punctured rubber! Good suggestion all the same,.. maybe Hermann Tilke should be made to attend too.
Wouldn’t it be great to have 2 or 3 years with really loose regulations, every 10 years. This would allow for some brilliant old school F1 development, with its crazy & ingenious ideas affecting not only the racing, but also the cars aesthetics. Sure it would be expensive, with speeds increasing, but only having this ‘open window’ for a couple of years every decade before adapting the more conservative regs we’re used to, would bring the much needed excitement back to the sport.