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The Monaco Grand Prix was missing a key ingredient in the form of Fernando Alonso but there’s every chance that his McLaren Honda may not have flattered his efforts here anyway so he set about participating in the Indy 500 and with just 21 laps left, his Honda-powered Indycar let him down there as well.

Not to worry, Fernando’s McLaren in Monaco was in good hands as Jenson Button returned to drive for the team but it was always going to be a difficult proposition as Jenson hasn’t driven the new cars yet and Monaco isn’t the type of track to try and learn the limits of a new car.

Ferrari were looking to capitalize on a mysteriously ill Mercedes of Lewis Hamilton who was out in Q2 during qualifying.

Sebastian Vettel took the win in Monaco leading a Ferrari 1, 2 and extending their lead in Driver’s Championship and taking the lead in the Constructor’s Championship.


A win for Ferrari who finished 1, 2 at Monaco which hasn’t happened since 2001. It was a dominating performance in Monaco capitalizing on a struggling Mercedes maximizing the points through good driving and good strategy.

A win for Red Bull’s Daniel Ricciardo who mirrored Vettel’s race as both, in clean air, put in astounding laps prior to first stop while Verstappen and Raikkonen mirrored each other and fell suceptable to the overcut.

Mercedes were a fail this weekend for me due to car issues but the two teammates, Bottas and Hamilton, put in good drives in challenging cars. Especially Bottas for hodling on to 4th and to Hamilton for a spirited drive to 7th minimizing the points damage.

A big win for Haas F1 with a doubl-points finish for the team which is the first time that’s ever happened for the sophomores in F1.

A win for Jolyon Palmer who managed to finish the race in 11th for a young man who needed it.


A fail for Mercedes who seemed befuddled with Monaco’s demands on their car. Lewis Hamilton could not get on top of his car’s inability to provide grip while his teammate fared better but was over 5s adrift of the two Ferrari’s after just 17 laps. It’s difficult to know why Hamilton’s direction on car setup on Thursday, couldn’t be reversed or couldn’t be mirrored to his teammate’s, Valtterin Bottas, by Saturday. Lewis drove hard and did the best he could to minimize the points damage to finish 7th.

A fail for Renault as Nico Hulkenberg suffered a major gearbox problem and parked his car at Portier with whisps of smoke coming from the engine space.

Sauber’s un-safe release is a mistake that perhaps set up the clash between Pascal Werhlein and McLaren’s Jenson Button. Sauber’s brake issues (if that’s what it was) for Ericsson combine to make a fail weekend for the team.

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A fail for the tire compound performances in Monaco as the UltraSoft tire was just 0.5s faster than the SuperSoft compound but it lasted as long with a lack of degradation. Now, this could be viewed as a bad thing if you love the high-degradation tire concept but if not, this story is meh. These are the tires, deal with it…it’s the same for everyone.

A fail for McLaren who entered the weekend looking to score points and all was well with Vandoorne in 10th until an issue with Perez in turn 1 left him out of the race. Jenson Button also retired having punted Wehrlein at Portier.

A fail for Force India as Perez was bashing his way to the front hitting Sainz, Vandoorne and Kvyat and also struggled with a heating issue. Ocon and Perez both had punctures and it left both drivers out of the point breaking their streak of points-paying finishes.


Admittedly, I was busy doing the Double at the Indy 500 and Coca Cola 600 on Sunday so I didn’t see the full race until Monday. I did, however, see all of the accusations and tweets of a stone-faced Kimi Raikkonen and even read several race reports suggesting Ferrari screwed Raikkonen’s win and even Lewis Hamilton engage in some gamesmanship by accusing Ferrari of team orders by choosing Sebastian Vettel as the clear number one driver. I would expect Lewis to say that because Sebastian is beating him in the Driver’s Championship but while the overcut may have been the preferred strategy given the tire compound performances, It hink there is more to the story that involves covering Bottas, Verstappen and Ricciardo as well as positioning Seb for a win. Regardless of what the reality is, if I am Maurizio Arrivebene, I’d make the same call. You can’t cede a win for 25 points when Hamilton is bleeding points in the driver’s championship. Ferrari know that and Vettel’s fast laps prior to first stop prove he knew it too.

It takes a veteran pro like Jenson Button to show Felipe Massa how to get out of th way without hampering a leading car’s pace. Come on Felipe, take notes.

WTH is going on with Pascal Werhlein and tipping over on walls like RoC and now Monaco. In defense of Pascal, Portier isn’t known for its prolific passing opportunity so perhaps Button’s move was a little too opportunistic?

I’m the worst at having a particular phrase and using it so often as to grind it into the ground so I’m very sensitive to it when a broadcaster does the same thing. I counted an amazing number of uses of the term “come to grief”.

Uh…the moment of silence weirdness?

Monaco GP Result

1 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 78 1h44m44.340s
2 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 78 3.145s
3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull/Renault 78 3.745s
4 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 78 5.517s
5 Max Verstappen Red Bull/Renault 78 6.199s
6 Carlos Sainz Toro Rosso/Renault 78 12.038s
7 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 78 15.801s
8 Romain Grosjean Haas/Ferrari 78 18.150s
9 Felipe Massa Williams/Mercedes 78 19.445s
10 Kevin Magnussen Haas/Ferrari 78 21.443s
11 Jolyon Palmer Renault 78 22.737s
12 Esteban Ocon Force India/Mercedes 78 23.725s
13 Sergio Perez Force India/Mercedes 78 49.089s
14 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso/Renault 71 Collision
15 Lance Stroll Williams/Mercedes 71 Brakes
Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren/Honda 66 Spun off
Marcus Ericsson Sauber/Ferrari 63 Spun off
Jenson Button McLaren/Honda 57 Collision
Pascal Wehrlein Sauber/Ferrari 57 Collision
Nico Hulkenberg Renault 15 Gearbox

Drivers’ Championship Points

1 Sebastian Vettel 129
2 Lewis Hamilton 104
3 Valtteri Bottas 75
4 Kimi Raikkonen 67
5 Daniel Ricciardo 52
6 Max Verstappen 45
7 Sergio Perez 34
8 Carlos Sainz 25
9 Felipe Massa 20
10 Esteban Ocon 19
11 Nico Hulkenberg 14
12 Romain Grosjean 9
13 Kevin Magnussen 5
14 Pascal Wehrlein 4
15 Daniil Kvyat 4
16 Jolyon Palmer 0
17 Marcus Ericsson 0
18 Lance Stroll 0
19 Fernando Alonso 0
20 Antonio Giovinazzi 0
21 Stoffel Vandoorne 0

Constructors’ Championship Points

1 Ferrari 196
2 Mercedes 179
3 Red Bull/Renault 97
4 Force India/Mercedes 53
5 Toro Rosso/Renault 29
6 Williams/Mercedes 20
7 Renault 14
8 Haas/Ferrari 14
9 Sauber/Ferrari 4
10 McLaren/Honda 0
Overall Race
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  • B52RockLobster

    The VET/RAI conspiracy is very weak…RBR did the same strategy with their behind car and it worked out. There is a 0% chance RBR did that to favor RIC as VES is the golden boy there.

    VET is always better on his tires, and has tried the overcut strategy in many races this year. It worked out this time for him, and he put in the fast laps to earn it.

    • Clayton Brown

      I thought RIC was behind VER, then after the round of pits was in front of him? My wife and I are RAI fans and in our heart of hearts we knew they were going to give the win to VET. Vettel is a better driver, but I think on this track RAI had his number. In my opinion they waited to do the “right strategy” at the wrong time to put VET in front. Kimi hit massive traffic after the stop and there is no way in the world they didn’t know he’d hit that traffic.

      • B52RockLobster

        Yep, that’s what I meant. Sorry if that wasn’t clear. RIC was behind VER, RBR put RIC on the same strategy as VET, and RIC jumped VER. There is no chance RBR did that to favor RIC (as people are suggesting Ferrari did with VET) as RBR has shown no favoritism to RIC with VER at the team.

        RAI had VET’s number in qualifying (although by a very slim margin) but VET was clearly faster on the soft tires as he had a 10+ second gap at one point once he got ahead of RAI.

  • Salvu Borg

    The Vettel.Raikkonen conspiracy was pushed by those at the well known number one LULU fan club because mostly they had no answer to the number 5 and 7 cars speed around the tight streets of Monaco.
    Vettel was not going to try a move on Kimi on the tight streets of Monaco. instead he opted to bide his time, conserving his tyres. when Kimi pitted (Kimi having asked his pit wall if it was time to come in, and his pit wall having then told him to come in) Vettel upped the ante and showed his true hand. the flurry of laps in clean air (that resulted in victory) were exceptional, dipping into the 1-15’s, the writing was on the wall, Kimi had been actually holding him up.
    Vettel was comfortably fastest in the second part of the race, even after the safety car, he simply disappeared up the road, and Kimi had no answer .
    The FERRARI pit wall, unlike the Mercedes one, didn’t need to issue instructions/team orders to their drivers. FERRARI TACTICAS FAIR PLAY.

    • Clayton Brown

      Not really. If VET was flying, then so was RAI. VET barely came out ahead of RAI, and RAI hit a lot of traffic that VET didn’t hit. In my opinion this is, what 4 years in a row (?) that the fastest driver on the weekend hasn’t won the race. Not a big deal, it happens, but lets not pretend like VET wasn’t gifted this win a la Hamilton last year.

      • Salvu Borg

        “but lets not pretend like Vettel wasn’t gifted this win”.
        Apart from faux outrage and melodrama, re your line of “Vettel being gifted this win” what if? what exactly do you find wrong in FERRARI the team gifting Vettel the win?.

        • Clayton Brown

          What do I find wrong with it? Really? Team orders are appalling, a scar on the sport. Think back to Schumacher days.

          I get it if there are 3 races or so left in the season, this early though?

          • Salvu Borg

            “i get it if there are 3 races or so left in the season, this early though?” AH, I see read and hear a nice colored “pappagal” parroting from the famous speculator of them all, the front man of Lulu’s number one fan club, from were the original faux outrage and melodrama originated during the race commemtary.

          • Clayton Brown

            Me: Your house is on fire!
            You: Oh, you’re a fan of Lulu fan club.
            Me: What? Anyway, you’re house is on fire, seriously.
            You: Oh, you’re repeating something Lulu told you!
            Me: Look dude, I don’t know if someone else said the same thing, but it doesn’t really matter. YOU’RE HOUSE IS ON FIRE!

            I hope this makes you feel silly. You’re welcome.

            If not, you should study logical fallacies. Statement A is true or not true, irregardless of who I am a fan of, or what other human beings have the same opinion as me, or if I say something that someone has once said before.

            I like VET and RAI but am a fan of RedBull. I have no idea who or what Lulu is, but as I’ve already explained … none of this matters.

            If I can watch the race from my couch, and with the F1 Access app see that Kimi will hit traffic after his pit I have to assume that Ferrari knows this too.

            They basically drove through the traffic, pulled away from the traffic enough to pit Raikonnen and have him drive through traffic again, while letting Vettel stay out and pull out away from the traffic enough to pit and avoid the traffic.

            I find it a reasonable conclusion that the result was intentional.

          • Salvu Borg

            Apart from your theorized opinion which of course is a right of yours, according to autosports race commentary it was Kimi who asked his pit wall if it was time to come in, and it was after him asking that his pit wall brought him in, now Clayton don’t you think that when autosports race commentary said that Kimi asked his pit wall if it was time to come in they were commentating according to radio messages?.
            Now having said all that, or better still repeated all that, re your opinion as expressed on here (once again of which is a right of yours), that of which “I find it a reasonable conclusion that the result was intentional”, what do you as a formula one follower does find wrong in FERRARI “THE TEAM” having managed to maximize the points takings/the results takings re both their drivers and constructors standings?.

          • Clayton Brown

            What does it matter if Kimi asked if it was time to come in? The team should respond, “If we pit now we feel we’ll hit traffic”. They are the ones with the information, Kimi is asking a question. Using the F1 Access app, listening to all the radio calls, I can tell you when a driver asks to pit the answer is usually “No”. So I don’t really find it meaningful that he asked if it was time to come in.

            Put it this way, if Vettel weren’t in a red car they’d have made damn sure RAI came out in front – right?

            Regarding maximizing points, it doesn’t matter what order they finish in. 1 and 2 is the same as 2 and 1.

            They waited long enough for RAI to hit the traffic. And yes, VET was flying like a mad man – great laps, but I think it would have been interesting to see Kimi’s laps because even with traffic RAI came out, what, 3 meters behind?

          • Salvu Borg

            “regarding maximizing points, it doesn’t matter what order they finish in. 1 and 2 is the same as 2 and 1”.
            Really great formula one matters wisdom.

          • Clayton Brown

            I don’t think your allowed to say “no duh” when someone points something out, correcting your error. It’s just tacky.

          • Salvu Borg

            OK, so you think I am not allowed to say “no duh”, which I didn’t, and you believe that you “corrected my error”, which you neither did, because according to you “it’s just tacky”.
            So according to you I will now have to try and understand your formula one wisdom which says that regarding a F1 team maximizing points “1 and 2” (1st and 2nd) is the same as “2 and 1” (2nd and 1st).

          • Formerly Known As

            Sunny, I see you’re still using crash dot net tactics you learned from Taipan.

            “I can’t prove anything so I’ll just call you a fanboy or accuse you of being someone else who happens to be a fanboy. ”

            Lulu?!?! Still!?! Only schoolkids call people names. It’s time for you to grow up now and stop being prime minister of Lululand.

          • Salvu Borg

            You would have been much more appreciated, done much better contributing your learned opinion on the subject at hand on these here pages.

          • Formerly Known As

            As opposed to accusing posters of being a member of or subscribing to the Lulu fanclub. Oh, the irony.

          • Salvu Borg

            Are you a “LULU” fan boy? if you are I for one will appreciate discussing/trashing out subjects matter on hand on these here discussion forum with you, Some “LULU” fan boys does at least contribute to the subject being discussed and I for one not only appreciates their input but also openly assures them that openly or not being a fan boy of a team and or driver is a right of theirs, but then there are those that drop-in without contributing anything at all to the subject at hand, on the other hand not responding to such peoples “useless blabbing’s” they might think it is a weakness.
            Formerly Known As, If as you say you know me that much I need not assure you that I have no such weakness in responding to you.

          • Formerly Known As

            “Some “LULU” fan boys…”

            There you go again. Pretending to be Mr. Objective but already denigrating not only Hamilton but also his fans.

            But we all know you’re the biggest “Lulu” fanboy around here because all you think about is Lewis Hamilton and anything to do with said driver. For example, this is a Vettel/Kimi/Ferrari article yet you can’t help bringing up your obsession, Mr. Lewis Hamilton.

            Your useless babblings aside, I find this site very informative. My need not to comment means that the information is satisfactory and don’t need your “source” aka “totalsportek” to verify the validity of the information here.

            My contribution is to call you out when you’re trying to turn this wonderful site into a crash dot net clone where the word “LULU” is bandied about like a bingo card in an old folks home.

            No sir, your weakness is not responding back. Your weakness is and has always been, Lewis Hamilton. #SunnyLoves44

          • jakobusvdl

            Hi Clayton, I’m not sure why people find team orders so objectionable. The cars are entered by a team, the team consists of many hundreds of people, the drivers are employees of the team, the team earns its money from the Constructors championship. How do people reach the view that the driver is entitled to anything other than the privilege of getting paid a big sack of cash for driving these phenomenal machines to the best advantage of the team?
            I’m not trying to pick a fight on this, I’m aware my view is the minority opinion, so I’d genuinely like to understand the views of people who see it differently.

          • Salvu Borg

            JAKO, “People who see it differently” The majority of people that reasons like this (see it differently) are those that do so because it doesn’t suites the team and or driver they support.

          • jakobusvdl

            You are probably right Salvu, the ‘acceptability’ of team orders does vary depending on the circumstances.

          • MIE

            Enforcing team orders too early in a season puts all the team’s hopes in the driver’s title behind just one of their drivers. Should that driver then injure himself before winning the title (think Schumacher breaking his leg in 1999), the other driver is then in a more difficult position to try and mount a championship challenge. Another aspect is the impact of imposing team orders has on the driver asked to give up the lead for his team-mate (Fernandon is faster than you) which then results in the second driver performing below par.
            If the drivers are on different strategies (a faster driver on fresher tyres stopping more often coming up behind a team-mate going slower on worn rubber) then I think team orders are OK in order to maximise the team’s results. However early in the season I feel it is more harmful to the sport to ask drivers to swap positions, especially when the team score is not improved as a result.

            For the record, I don’t think Ferrari imposed team orders at Monaco, I do think they made a strategic error in pitting Raikkonen too soon, before he could clear the back markers when he returned to the circuit. I put it down to incompetence rather than any master plan to favour Vettel.

          • Salvu Borg

            Regardless of opinions expressed by us followers of the sports as well as those expressed by the teams themselves, every team on the grid will do what they believe to be the best for the team and not for individual driver.
            This year just inside 6 races Mercedes was the team to have kick started team orders, not once but three times.
            The FERRARI pit wall at Monaco didn’t need to use team orders/issue team orders to their drivers, Kimi’s pit stop was as pre planed from before the race. In fact according to radio transcripts he was the one who asked his pit wall if it was time to come in.

          • MIE

            Sticking to a pre planned lap for Raikkonen’s pit stop rather than taking the position of lapped traffic, is why I called Ferrari incompetent.

            Raikkonen wouldn’t have been overtaken had he stayed out for a few laps longer, and Vettel could have still come in after that and maintained the team 1-2. Which driver was in front would still have been in doubt, as the old ultra softs still looked better than the new super softs. Ferrari were responding to Verstappen’s stop on lap 32 and Bottas’ stop on lap 33. They should have seen that Verstappen was a second a lap slower on lap 33 than Raikkonen, and a tenth slower on lap 34. There was no real threat from the undercut.

          • Salvu Borg

            Calling FERRARI “incompetent?”, in my opinion FERRARI couldn’t have been more brilliant in managing to achieve the maximum points for the team (both championships) then they did, and that without having to resort to what their nearest competitor had to resort too.
            Now that you have dived into this (Kimi/FERRARI Monaco/pit stop) kicked-up outrage and melodrama to the extent of expressing your opinion that “FERRARI was incompetent for calling Kimi in when they did”. In my opinion, and that is only my opinion. Kimi himself presented Ferrari with or better say forced FERRARI into a God send opportunity, Kimi started the race on a pre planed pit stop as per his starting position on the grid, of which he must have agreed with, after briefly opening a gap to Vettel, he saw that the chance FERRARI gave him (that of opening the gap needed running in clean air) wasn’t going to be achieved, it was then that he started to back Vettel up into the following cars (bunching-up the field). After he pitted everybody and his dog saw what Vettel was capable of running in clean air.
            And now, all those shedding these crocodile tears about Kimi should rest assured that there will not and cannot be any problems at FERRARI, as FERRARI has shown with much much bigger and more important team members that nobody at FERRARI is bigger than the team, everybody at FERRARI WORKS FOR THE TEAM. FERRARI is unique in that.

          • jakobusvdl

            Thanks for the response Dave. Those points are quite driver-centric. I agree that a team favouring one driver for the wdc could backfire if that driver has an injury, but the teams make lots of decisions that favour one side of the garage over the other. I.e. who gets the new parts first, who gets bumped out of FP1 for the reserve driver, who gets the ‘best’ strategist, mechanics, engineers, etc. We (fans) don’t see those decisions so don’t get excited about those team decisions.
            As far as demotivating a driver, surely that’s about the teams being clear about the roles, certainly with the drivers, but also with the fans. There have been teams where the roles are very clear Barachello & Schumacher, Massa & Alonso, Coultard & Hakkinen, Dumfries/Nakajima/De Angelis & Senna, etc. The fans don’t like it but there are drivers with ego’s that can cope with that scenario.
            My view is that we’re no longer in an era where a brilliant driver is required to manage the car and strategy, the workload on the driver is much more about managing the tyres and, executing team strategy. If that strategy requires finishing second to a team mate, where’s the harm?

          • Clayton Brown

            I agree. We’ve heard a lot about how easy the cars are to drive. Maybe it’s just me, but honestly I could care less about the constructors championship.

            I respect Mercedes a lot for how they handled their drivers the last couple years. Willing to give the second driver an alternate strategy to challenge the other driver, with one rule – don’t jeopardize the teams position.

          • jakobusvdl

            Cheers Clayton, your view is probably the majority one. Most fans care less about the constructors than the drivers.
            F1 has done a terrible job of getting fans engaged in the technology, and instead we get a narrative about the drivers. That was relevant in previous eras when the driver was the computer that extracted the performance out of the car, but since the 90’s that relationship has changed, and since then its all about the technology.

          • MIE

            The harm comes when one driver doesn’t obey the team order, think Villeneuve/Pironi or the Multi21 fall out with Vettel and Webber.
            In one case it resulted in a driver’s death, in the other a weakened team as the drivers stopped working together.
            If the drivers are running 1 & 2, it makes no difference to the constructors championship which order they finish in, so why impose team orders? Toward the end of the year, if one driver requires the help of his team-mate to win the title, that is a different matter, but I don’t think that it is helpful in the first half or three quarters of the season.

          • Salvu Borg

            “the harm comes when one driver doesn’t obey the team order”.
            Another one of the much recent examples:>
            When Mercedes was victim of number 44 (one of its drivers) ego-show.
            “British superstar hits back at suggestions he was wrong to ignore (not obey) his team orders during the Hungarian GP”.

          • Formerly Known As

            Or when Redbull was a victim of Vettel’s ego show.

            “Ricciardo caught Vettel in the middle of the race, after which Red Bull gave at least two messages to the world champion telling him to move over.

            At one point Vettel asked “which tyre is he on?” and was informed Ricciardo was on the same medium compound as him. “TOUGH LUCK,” Vettel replied.”

            Or when Toro Rosso was a victim of Verstappen’s ego show.

            “Scuderia Toro Rosso’s Max Verstappen — perhaps following in Red Bull teams’ alumni Sebastian Vettel’s footsteps — decided that he wasn’t going to take it, and called out “NO!” over the radio when he was asked to let his teammate, Carlos Sainz, through at the Singapore Grand Prix.”

            Or when Williams was a victim of Massa’s ego show.

            “Felipe Massa has insisted he was right to ignore a team order to let team-mate Valtteri Bottas past him to take seventh place in the closing stages of the Malaysian Grand Prix.

            “What’s happened today was maybe not what I expected, BUT WHAT I DID WAS CORRECT.” states Massa.”

            Oh no! F1 drivers with big egos! What is the world coming to?!?!

            Sunny, your obsession with 44 is clearly influencing your comments. He’s in your head again. Be careful. Soon he will be building a penthouse and you won’t be able to evict him.


          • Salvu Borg

            At long last, that’s a marked improvement, in contributing, a good contribution to the subject at hand, well done.

          • Formerly Known As

            Here’s another one, #SunnyLoves44.

          • Salvu Borg

            As I said, at long last you contributed something by adding some facts (names and their doings)

          • Formerly Known As

            That penthouse must be close to being built. Soon you will have Hamilton all for yourself.

            Since you’re the president of said fan club, you should know what you are pushing. Why don’t you enlighten us since you seem to know so much about Lewis Hamilton? C’mon Sunny, don’t let your obsession go to waste. At least make your existence worthwhile.


          • Salvu Borg

            OK, HERE IS SOMELIGHT TO YOU, The latest (amongst others) being pushed-out about “LULU’S diva” letting him down is no surprise and nothing new amongst the things that originates by those of his number one fan club. When his team mate/s could not get the tyres to perform, it’s his team mate/s who is/are under performing, but when it is him not managing to get his tyres to perform, it is his diva that is letting him down. Ditto, When his team orders him to let his team mate through, his team is wrong, but when his team orders his team mate to let him through, his team is good.
            The latest from his number one fan club by a self-appointed F1 expert:> As to why his diva is letting him down, he mentioned 1001 things too numerous to list here of why his WO8 is letting him down when it comes to making his tyres work, what this self-appointed expert did not say was that according to his totonator and he himself, both cars were using the same set-up and the same tyres, and that only technically leaves his driving style as the denominator as to why his team mate was managing to make his tyres work for him and he not.
            Unless one is a one eyed LULU fan boy such things being pushed out by people that are in a position to influence their followers are stomach churning.

          • Formerly Known As

            Aren’t you glad you got that off your chest? We know that talking about Lewis Hamilton all the time must make your life so worthwhile. Your Lewis Hamilton fan club seems to be thriving these days.

            Your posts about the Hamilton excuses remind me of posts by a certain one eyed Vettel fanboy named nakagoli. He pushed the same excuses when Vettel was struggling to beat Ricciardo in 2014. When Vettel struggled it was always the car and never his teammate driving better. When Vettel drove well it was all because of him while the car and his teammate were crappola. I’m sure you felt the same way about the Vettel one eyed fan club back then. Not!

            It must be hard to stir the pot while looking at yourself in the mirror.

            Penthouse done yet?


          • Salvu Borg

            These same self-appointed formula one experts which are in a position to influence others/their followers are in a race between themselves to outdo each other. Two/three days ago one of them headlined his site “Pirelli favoring FERRARI”, another responded “Pirelli tailoring their tyres solely for FERRARI needs”. On the other hand someone else very gently starts tickling back into action and feeding others to push forward something from on his archives shelves about F1 fans/followers wanting/preferring a tyre war/there need be tyre competition.
            What these people fails to tell their followers or better say hides from their followers is/are the facts that when FERRARI, Mercedes and the red bullies took the 2016 FIA offer to produce a year old mule car to strict 2017 aero rules configuration (front wing, rear wing and diffuser) to test/evaluate the 2017 intended Pirelli rubber configuration under 2017 aero down force levels, FERRARI by far done the best job of the three, that Mercedes and the red bullies were confident back then that their FIA rule circumventing trick suspension systems alone will take care of the new for 2017 aero levels. FERRARI took a different path, they produced and tested an aero configuration as near to what was allowed by the rules for 2017, (nearest and identical to what they are actually using now). They also were the only team to have obliged both their main drivers to do all the testing. In the end this resulted in Vettel testing for 2228km, Kimi testing for 1054km, Rosberg testing for 209km, LULU (who is so great a driver that believes testing is a waste of time) tested for 50km, Verstappen tested for 517km, Ricciardo tested for 200km. the rest of the Mercedes and the red bullies mileage was wasted by Wehrlein and Gasly.
            My opinion, and only my opinion at that, from long years of experience following F1, me says that TYRE USAGE CHARACTERISTTICS OF A CAR ARE NOT EASY THING TO CHANGE.

          • Formerly Known As

            After having the most laps testing the Pirellis in a blind test, Ferrari seems like they have not learned anything with two tire failures today, while Mercedes keeps on getting faster and getting much gentler on their tires and extracting the most performance from it when it matters. Tyre usage characteristics of a car is quite easy to change, after all.

            So your long experience following F1 meant diddly when it comes to commenting on the technical side of the sport. It must be nice being a professional guesser and habitual prognosticator.

            Meanwhile, the guy who only had 50 laps of testing set the fastest lap again on a worn out, blistered Pirelli on his way to his 5th Grand Chelem. Maybe testing, especially blind, is a waste of time after all.

          • Salvu Borg

            “nakagoli?” Richard is one of the most experienced and Knowledgeable F1 follower I have had the pleasure to trash-out FI matters with, the likes of you just doesn’t even start to do undo his shoe laces when it comes to F1 matters knowledge. last time I crossed his path I literary begged him to come join and contribute on here this site.

          • Formerly Known As

            You forgot to add …and the biggest one eyed Vettel fanboy.

            You can both do my shoelaces while I explain the complexities and intricacies of the sport to you. Alas, this will never happen because all you guys talk about and are knowledgable of are the activities of a certain LULU.

            “Lulu this, Lulu that”. Not very credible especially when your main source of information, word for word, comes from totalsportek dot com.

            Just help Lewis build that penthouse in your head. You are much more useful that way.

          • Salvu Borg

            As useless a contribution to this site/discussion as a oneeyedLULUfanboy can produce.

          • Formerly Known As

            And you did it one post. Bravo!

          • jakobusvdl

            So the driver’s ego’s are the problem with team orders. Surely that’s something that teams in sport or work manage all the time. In F1 some teams seem to manage it incredibly badly – RBR – Vettel/Webber, Mercedes – Hamilton/Rosberg, Mclaren – Hamilton/Alonso, Williams – Senna/Prost, in fact Senna/any of his team mates.
            The reason teams impose team orders early in the season? I think thats down to the WDC. I might not particularly care who wins it, but there is a lot of prestige to it and the teams want both WCC and WDC, so will try to make sure their drivers aren’t taking points off each other and opening the door for another teams No1 driver to snatch the WDC away.

          • Salvu Borg

            “If the drivers are running 1-2 it makes no difference to the CWC. correct there, but you sounds like only the CWC belongs and is important to the team and not the DWC.
            What sort of reasoning is that, is it because number 44 would have had seven (7) less points to recover after Monaco?.

  • Tim Parker

    Great race review… thought to be honest, I think you make it sound more exciting than in actually was. Monaco is never going to raise the pulse on the racing alone… but this year, im not sure it even sure it managed to keep me awake.

    To be honest… I think i would have preferred to see the whole grid go round in souped-up go carts. When the biggest Adrenalin pump or the race is “Has BJ just KO’ed Wehrlein”… I think we have a problem the no amount of fancy yachts and designer labels can fix.

    • Zachary Noepe

      100%. Well said.

  • DrumPhil

    I really enjoy watching those cars shoot through the narrow, historic streets of Monaco. I could watch that all day. We know there will be very few genuine passes, if any. But that heightens the pit tactics chess match. It also means the drivers have no room for error, as there is no chance to make up for a mistake – like Perez, who put in fastest laps after his late pit, but to no avail. Great stuff. There was more passing in the F2 race, as some of those young drivers left open opportunities in some corners. That was also entertaining to watch. But the big boys in F1 don’t leave doors open in Monaco.

  • MIE

    If Hamilton thinks Ferrari are favouring Vettel because he stopped later than Raikkonen, what does it say about Mercedes? Hamilton stopped much later than Bottas, Bottas stopped on lap 33, Raikkonen on lap 34, Vettel on lap 39 and Hamilton on lap 46.

    Raikkonen lost some time before his stop lapping Button and Wehrlein, and after his stop had to pass them again. Vettel only needed to pass them once, before his stop. The extra time Raikkonen spent lapping traffic while Vettel was in clear air was enough to make the difference.

    • Salvu Borg

      On three occasions this year Bottas has been asked/ordered to move aside for 44, and still he came out saying he doesn’t consider himself as number 1 and that FERRARI are favoring Vettel?.
      Apart from him and the usual lot pushing their FERRARI caused acute diarrhoea forward there is no evidence that FERRARI deliberately hampered Kimi progress, Kimi was just not fast enough when it mattered, punto-a-basta.
      Number 44 problem is his long standing foot in mouth infection which his ex-Godfather gave-up trying to cure him off when number 44 back then told him to “go swivel”. This particular infection is caused be a leaking lower aft hot air valve whose leaks lead to brain farts.

      • Scottynz

        Salvu, for once we can agree. Vettel was the faster driver on the day and he was being held up by Kimi. As much as I am a Kimi fan (I am also a Vettel fan) Vettel put the fast laps in at the right time and won the race fair and square. Hell I will even say that this year Ferrari have to pick a number one to make sure they win the title. If that is the case sorry Kimi you are just not consistent enough….. Vettel is the best bet. I also agree Hamilton is being favoured but hell if I was Merc. why not

        • Salvu Borg

          I have and never had a problem with any team favoring one driver over the other, as I said elsewhere, a team will always do what they believe is best for the team.
          As to Vettel having been faster than Kimi, (faster laps at the right time), when Kimi stopped, Vettel cleared Ericsson and over the next five laps pushed hard, the first three laps were faster then Kimi had been doing/managing, lap 34 = 76.5s, lap 35 = 76.4s, lap 36 = 76.2s, and then the astonishing lap 37 = 75.5s and lap 38 = 75.2s. these were 2 seconds faster then what Kimi was doing. It is a fact that everybody is entitled to his opinion, but some of what was being parroted about on here is nothing less than one eyed fanboyism hogwash.

  • Zachary Noepe

    Good thoughts and, with respect, I disagree with a lot of it.

    1) I’m sorry to the whole ‘we need more historic races and fewer tilke tracks in car parks’ set but I’ll watch a real race on the moon before I watch this dumb dumb race ever again. a few of us took our 750cc road race bikes to where a buddy worked at an indoor kiddy go cart track one winter, and tried to race them around inside and once we ran trials bikes inside the house up the stairs and stuff. That’s what this ‘race’ is like. If they’re going to have it on the calendar, they should make one design small cars for it and use it as a chance for the points to shake up a little and gifted drivers to show their stuff without an equipment differential. That would be sort of cool. But driving a 2017 F1 car around there is so stupid. Give button credit, he humiliated himself his team and Britain but at least he understands the cars are too wide to get next to each other, you have to tip one on its side if you want to pass with the other. He’d make a great house mover think of all he could pack in one of those big vans. Which brings me to

    2) Was Alonso’s car in good hands? Was Jensen really running a clinic on, what did you call it, being a veteran pro, Is that what circulating around in last until you smash a guy with a back problem into a flashback and ruin the equipment you got lent is called? Button was right he didn’t need practice, he was able to get right back to moaning about another driver on the radio instead of focusing on his pace just like he’d never left. For this sort of crap we can’t have a beautiful woman drive one car?

    3) Not sure I agree with the yay Hamilton boo Merc verdict. Lewis was huffing like a smoker in the last race, got smoked by his teammate in this one, isn’t it possible he just drove like crap and that’s where the problem lies? I mean Merc had a fourth place car at least right? I’ve thought since the beginning of the season it wouldn’t take long for Lewis to crack under pressure from within or without his team, now he has both.

    I say one star for that interactive museum/boat show and that’s from someone whose lead in the F1 pool got a chunk bigger thanks to Monaco.

  • jakobusvdl

    That was a major fail from Mercedes this weekend. The fact they couldn’t set their car up for the circuit is quite bizarre, they’ve got more technical resources than anyone else. It seems that the idea that this years Merc has a very narrow ‘window of performance’ may have some truth.
    They also lost out in the strategy calls, with Bottas losing third to Ricciardo’s RBR, in trying to defend against Verstappen – oops!
    And it is just phenomenal for the two Haas cars to score points, in FP and Quali the car looked to be a snappy scary beast. Staying on top of that for 78 laps must have been a mission. Same applies for Bottas and Hamilton in their skittery Merc’s.